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I'm thinking of using Khols Demolitions skill to use; mines, melta bombs, etc. We can run into a number of situations that a little bit of explosives can help. Thinking of grabbing a Stalker/Modified Bolter and Assault Shotgun combo. Does a stalker benefit from the same Weapon Specialization (Bolter) or would there need to be a separate W.S.? Skill only requires class and type, so technically... Khol can benefit from the use of this weapon.
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+++WIP+++

Terminator armour - 60

Auxiliary grenade launcher, shoulder mounted - 30

Powersword - 20
Heavy flamer - 15
storm shield - 35
Thunder hammer - 30
Fuel x4

Melta bomb - sig wargear
Chainaxe - sig wargear master
Frag x6
Krak x6


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insane935 wrote:
I'm thinking of using Khols Demolitions skill to use; mines, melta bombs, etc. We can run into a number of situations that a little bit of explosives can help. Thinking of grabbing a Stalker/Modified Bolter and Assault Shotgun combo. Does a stalker benefit from the same Weapon Specialization (Bolter) or would there need to be a separate W.S.? Skill only requires class and type, so technically... Khol can benefit from the use of this weapon.

Weapon specialization (Bolter) should apply to all bolters

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Total: 117
Spent: 113

Power Armour - free
Jump pack- sig wargear - free
Standard bolter mags (extra) x4 - free
Standard bolt pistol mags(extra) x4 - free
Hellfire bolter mag x1 - freebie up to 25req per mission
Melta Canisters (treat as 6 shots per, GM) x3 - free
Frags (extra) x4 - free
Kraks (extra) x4 - free
Repair Cement (extra) x4 - free
Astartes Combi-Weapon(Meltagun Vulkan) + Fire selector - 17
Astartes Chainsword + Dipole Mag-lock - 10
Astartes Combat Webbing - 3
Narthecium + Reductor - 18
Astartes Targeter - 25
Signum Link- 20
Demolition Charge x1 - 10
Hopper/Leaper mines x2 - 10

Total: 113
Added to Common Pool: 24(would have used this for an Astartes Targeter but I feeeeeel like Khol is already suited up. If anyone else needs the extra 24, go ahead and take it.)


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I'm gonna need to get a bit more detailed in my req.

I'll try today
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I've finalized what I want to bring with me to the next mission. Last post on the previous page in this thread.

EDITED: I guess I'm the only one who likes to RP a brain child for Assura. I hope you won't mind if I continue with it.
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Due to COVID, I have cut my vacation early and am back home. I can check more regularly and will hopefully have my req finalized within a couple of days.

Dude, fuck KT Assura. Those guys are assholes.

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WIP Requisitions Post:

Starting Req: 117
Hellfire Ammunition for Bolter (1 clip) - FREE Per Tactical Marine Equipment Rules
Astartes Frag Grenades (x6) - FREE
Astartes Krak Grenades (x6) - FREE
Bolt Magazines (Bolt Pistol) (x3) - FREE
Bolt Magazines (Boltgun) (x3) - FREE
Kraken Rounds (Boltgun) (x2) - 10 Req
Astartes Chainsword - 5 Req
Astartes Signum Link - 20 Req

Req Remaining: 82
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Ok, here's my planned requisition: (WIP)

120/117

Standard Issue:
-Servo-harness
-Artificer Armor
-Power Sword



1) Tools:

Skull of Brantor : 35
Astartes Omni-Tool: 25
Siege Auspex: 13
Cartograph: 5
Stummer: 5

2) Weapons:
Plasma Gun: 20
Bulkhead Shears 17


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+++WIP+++

Option 1

Astartes Harness - 4
Melta Bomb - 12
Stummer - 5
Combat Webbing - 4
Astartes Grapnel - 3
Masking Screen - 25
Conflagration Infernus Pistol - 35
Master quality chainsword - 10
Fenris Pattern Wolf Helm - free
Exceptional Stalker Pattern Boltgun - free
Stalker Pattern Silenced Bolt Pistol - free
Combat Knife - free
Repair Cement x3 - free
1 mag specialty ammo - Kraken - free
2 mag Kraken - 10
1 mag Stalker - 5
As much as I can carry - bolter mags, krack/frag grenades, melta cannisters

- 113 / 117


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insane935 wrote:
Total: 117
Spent: 113

Power Armour - free
Jump pack- sig wargear - free
Standard bolter mags (extra) x4 - free
Standard bolt pistol mags(extra) x4 - free
Hellfire bolter mag x1 - freebie up to 25req per mission
Melta Canisters (treat as 6 shots per, GM) x3 - free
Frags (extra) x4 - free
Kraks (extra) x4 - free
Repair Cement (extra) x4 - free
Astartes Combi-Weapon(Meltagun Vulkan) + Fire selector - 17
Astartes Chainsword + Dipole Mag-lock - 10
Astartes Combat Webbing - 3
Narthecium + Reductor - 18
Astartes Targeter - 25
Signum Link- 20
Demolition Charge x1 - 10
Hopper/Leaper mines x2 - 10

Total: 113
Added to Common Pool: 24(would have used this for an Astartes Targeter but I feeeeeel like Khol is already suited up. If anyone else needs the extra 24, go ahead and take it.)
PLACE HOLDER(IN PROGRESS ON SMARTPHONE)
After some discussion from Line, here are two loadouts that are open for debate.

Total: 117
Spent: 116

Power Armour - free
Jump pack- sig wargear - free
Standard boltgun mags x7 - ?free?
Standard bolt pistol mags x5 - ?free?
Hellfire boltgun mag x1 - freebie up to 25req per mission
Astartes Targeter- 25
Signum Link - 20
Cameleoline-Cloak - 20
Stummer- 5
Frags (extra) x4 - free
Kraks (extra) x4 - free
Repair Cement (extra) x4 - free
Astartes Boltgun (Stalker) + Trappings - 15
Astartes Chainsword + Dipole Mag-lock- 10
Astartes Combat Webbing - 3
Narthecium + Reductor - 18

Total: 116

OR

Total: 117
Spent: 116

Power Armour - free
Standard bolt pistol mags(extra) x4 - free
Hellfire bolt pistol mag x1 - freebie up to 25req per mission
Astartes Backpack Ammo Supply (100 shots) - free
Frags (extra) x4 - free
Kraks (extra) x4 - free
Repair Cement (extra) x4 - free
Astartes Lascannon - 30
Astartes Chainsword + Dipole Mag-lock - 10
Astartes Combat Webbing - 3
Laminator Signal Flare Capsules x1 - 5
Narthecium + Reductor - 18
Signum Link - 20
Astartes Targeter - 25
Leaper/Hopper mine x1 - 5

Total: 116


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Requistion: 117 to spend

Jump pack - Free (Sig. Wargear)
Storm Shield - 35 req
Hellfire Flamer (Deathwatch First Founding) - 25 req
- Extra Fuel x4 - free
Draco Back Banner - 15 req
Melta Bomb - 12 req
Signum Link - 20 Req
Speciality Bolts - Dragonfire (bolter) - 1 free per TWV
Specialty Bolts - Witchbolts (bolter) - 1 free per Tac. Marine
Standard (Bolter, extra) x3 - free
Standard (pistol, extra) x2 - free
Frags (extra) x5 (8 total) - free
Kraks (extra) x9 (12 total) - free
Repair (extra) Cement x2 (5 total) - free

107 spent/10 remaining for SQUAD POOL

If anything think I can benefit from something I am forgetting, I am all ears. Not quite done yet, but this is a pretty solid first go.

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insane935 wrote:
insane935 wrote:
Total: 117
Spent: 113

Power Armour - free
Jump pack- sig wargear - free
Standard bolter mags (extra) x4 - free
Standard bolt pistol mags(extra) x4 - free
Hellfire bolter mag x1 - freebie up to 25req per mission
Melta Canisters (treat as 6 shots per, GM) x3 - free
Frags (extra) x4 - free
Kraks (extra) x4 - free
Repair Cement (extra) x4 - free
Astartes Combi-Weapon(Meltagun Vulkan) + Fire selector - 17
Astartes Chainsword + Dipole Mag-lock - 10
Astartes Combat Webbing - 3
Narthecium + Reductor - 18
Astartes Targeter - 25
Signum Link- 20
Demolition Charge x1 - 10
Hopper/Leaper mines x2 - 10

Total: 113
Added to Common Pool: 24(would have used this for an Astartes Targeter but I feeeeeel like Khol is already suited up. If anyone else needs the extra 24, go ahead and take it.)
PLACE HOLDER(IN PROGRESS ON SMARTPHONE)
After some discussion from Line, here are two loadouts that are open for debate.

Total: 117
Spent: 116

Power Armour - free
Jump pack- sig wargear - free
Standard boltgun mags x7 - ?free?
Standard bolt pistol mags x5 - ?free?
Hellfire boltgun mag x1 - freebie up to 25req per mission
Astartes Targeter- 25
Signum Link - 20
Cameleoline-Cloak - 20
Stummer- 5
Frags (extra) x4 - free
Kraks (extra) x4 - free
Repair Cement (extra) x4 - free
Astartes Boltgun (Stalker) + Trappings - 15
Astartes Chainsword + Dipole Mag-lock- 10
Astartes Combat Webbing - 3
Narthecium + Reductor - 18

Total: 116

OR

Total: 117
Spent: 116

Power Armour - free
Standard bolt pistol mags(extra) x4 - free
Hellfire bolt pistol mag x1 - freebie up to 25req per mission
Astartes Backpack Ammo Supply (100 shots) - free
Frags (extra) x4 - free
Kraks (extra) x4 - free
Repair Cement (extra) x4 - free
Astartes Lascannon - 30
Astartes Chainsword + Dipole Mag-lock - 10
Astartes Combat Webbing - 3
Laminator Signal Flare Capsules x1 - 5
Narthecium + Reductor - 18
Signum Link - 20
Astartes Targeter - 25
Leaper/Hopper mine x1 - 5

Total: 116
Finalized

Total: 117
Spent: 121
From Squad Pool: 4

Power Armour - free
Standard bolt pistol mags(extra) x10 - ?free?
Hellfire bolt pistol mag x1 - freebie up to 25req per mission
Astartes Backpack Ammo Supply (100 shots) - free
Frags (extra) x4 - free
Kraks (extra) x4 - free
Repair Cement (extra) x4 - free
Astartes Lascannon - 30
Astartes Chainsword + Dipole Mag-lock - 10
Astartes Combat Webbing - 3
Laminator Signal Flare Capsules x1 - 5
Narthecium + Reductor - 18
Signum Link - 20
Astartes Targeter - 25
Leaper/Hopper mine x1 - 5
Stummer - 5

Total: 121

If me using 4 of the squad pool is too much, I'm willing to drop the one mine or the signal flare
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Gurkhal wrote:
I've finalized what I want to bring with me to the next mission. Last post on the previous page in this thread.

EDITED: I guess I'm the only one who likes to RP a brain child for Assura. I hope you won't mind if I continue with it.

Can you repost it on this page?

And absolutely you are not. Lol. My Dark Angel Leon as well as my Techmarine Erradius (though I am not sure if he is actually on Assura) are on that Kill Team. I just wasn't sure if they were in the room or what was going on. That's a good point; I should get on that. Please keep RPing your dude!

Side Note: Right now without counting Cal and taking Khol's extra into account, there is 32 Req in the squad pool. I expect that number to jump when Cal is finished. Then we can make some final decisions as to group allocation - getting that special God Killer etc etc. Looking good so far.

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Iron and Metal wrote:

Side Note: Right now without counting Cal and taking Khol's extra into account, there is 32 Req in the squad pool. I expect that number to jump when Cal is finished. Then we can make some final decisions as to group allocation - getting that special God Killer etc etc. Looking good so far.

Khol went over by 4. In my previous post, I noted it on the bottom. If the 4 points are needed elsewhere, I don't mind dropping something, back to being having 1 leftover.


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Should be fine.

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Finalised Requisition
Astartes Harness - 4
Melta Bomb - 12
Stummer - 5
Combat Webbing - 4
Astartes Grapnel - 3
Masking Screen - 25
Conflagration Infernus Pistol - 35
Master quality chainsword - 10
Fenris Pattern Wolf Helm - free
Exceptional Stalker Pattern Boltgun - free
Stalker Pattern Silenced Bolt Pistol - free
Combat Knife - free
Repair Cement x3 - free
1 mag specialty ammo - Kraken - free
2 mag Kraken - 10
1 mag Stalker - 5
8 Krak & 6 Frag - free
2 Bolter Mag - Free
2 Bolt Pistol Mag - Free
4 Melta Pistol Casnisters - free

- 113 / 117 - 4 Spare


Worn / Carried
Astartes Harness
Combat Webbing
Masking Screen
Fenris Pattern Wolf Helm
Master quality chainsword & Exceptional Stalker Pattern Boltgun - One mag-locked to backpack, other carried
Kraken Mag loaded to Stalker Bolter

Loadout
Backpack (6): Melta Bomb (1), Melta Canisters x2 (1), Basic Bolter Mag x2 (2), Krak x2 (1), Stalker Mag x1 (1)
Chest w/Webbing (6): Frag x6 (3), Krak x6 (3)
Belt (6): Repair Cement (1), Stummer (1), Astartes Grapnel (1), Melta Canisters x2 (1), Kraken Mag x2 (2)
Thigh Right (2): Conflagration Infernus Pistol
Thigh Left (2): Stalker Pattern Silenced Bolt Pistol
Greaves Right (1): Pistol Bolter Mag x2 (1)
Greaves Left (1): Combat Knife


See house rules for loadout rules for those not aware.
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Iron and Metal wrote:
Gurkhal wrote:
I've finalized what I want to bring with me to the next mission. Last post on the previous page in this thread.

EDITED: I guess I'm the only one who likes to RP a brain child for Assura. I hope you won't mind if I continue with it.

Can you repost it on this page?

And absolutely you are not. Lol. My Dark Angel Leon as well as my Techmarine Erradius (though I am not sure if he is actually on Assura) are on that Kill Team. I just wasn't sure if they were in the room or what was going on. That's a good point; I should get on that. Please keep RPing your dude!

Side Note: Right now without counting Cal and taking Khol's extra into account, there is 32 Req in the squad pool. I expect that number to jump when Cal is finished. Then we can make some final decisions as to group allocation - getting that special God Killer etc etc. Looking good so far.

Erradius is not on assura. He just responded to the summons.
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Not to derail here, but I've noticed my signature wont show anymore...


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Finalised Req for Hydrako

Terminator armour - 60
Storm shield - 35
Breaching augur - 18
Signum link - 20
Auxiliary grenade launcher - shoulder mounted - 30

Melta bomb - sig wargear
Chainaxe - sig wargear master
Frag x8
Krak x8

req - 163 total (-46 from pool)


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Furious Charge!

Open with a charge attack, why not? 22 vs 56 (WS + 10 from Charge action) = 3 DoS(?)

Never done combat outside of Power Armour before, should be fun!
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Ok, so I'm gonna try to dodge:
https://orokos.com/roll/951832 93 vs 82; failed for now. Roll your damage.

Ok, then I'll attack on my turn:

Then attack with my fist:

https://orokos.com/roll/951834 5 vs 72

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callume26 wrote:
Furious Charge!

Open with a charge attack, why not? 22 vs 56 (WS + 10 from Charge action) = 3 DoS(?)

Never done combat outside of Power Armour before, should be fun!

5 DoS. 22 = initial success and everything within 10 of the next degrees counts as an additional degree.

So, 22 (1 DoS) --> 32 (2 DoS) --> 42 (3 DoS) --> 52 (4 DoS) --> 56 within 10 (5 DoS).

Charge should be +20. We use the update Only War/DH2 combat system for this game. So really, 6 DoS.

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Finalized

Total: 117
Spent: 121
From Squad Pool: 4

Power Armour - free
Standard bolt pistol mags(extra) x10 - ?free?
Hellfire bolt pistol mag x1 - freebie up to 25req per mission
Astartes Backpack Ammo Supply (100 shots) - free
Frags (extra) x4 - free
Kraks (extra) x4 - free
Repair Cement (extra) x4 - free
Astartes Lascannon - 30
Astartes Chainsword + Dipole Mag-lock - 10
Astartes Combat Webbing - 3
Laminator Signal Flare Capsules x1 - 5
Narthecium + Reductor - 18
Signum Link - 20
Astartes Targeter - 25
Leaper/Hopper mine x1 - 5
Stummer - 5

Total: 121

If me using 4 of the squad pool is too much, I'm willing to drop the one mine or the signal flare

Dropping Narthecium and Reductor +18
Picking up Deathwatch Suspensor - 25
New Total: 128
11 over now instead of 4

Let me know if this is too much.
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req 117 spent 137, 20 from the pool
Stummer - 5
chainsword -5
dipole mag-lock -5
De-tox -3
Resuscitex -15
injector-3
Diagnostor Helmet +10 Medicae Preysense no night time penaties+20 vision @ night -15
Fire Selector -2
kraken rounds -15
hellfire rounds- 25
metal storm -15
pain suppressants -10
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Finalized

Dropping Narthecium and Reductor +18
Picking up Deathwatch Suspensor - 25
New Total: 128
11 over now instead of 4

Let me know if this is too much.

I don't think the suspensor is worth the REQ, not without a house rule that lowers it. We use the OW/DH2 combat system, so all standard attacks are 1/2 moves already. The weapon only has a single firing mode, so firing "semi/fully automatic" will never come into play. As Astartes, you'll never need to brace the weapon anyways, so that part does nothing as well. That might mean that NPCs could use it without bracing, but I do not anticipate that situation.

The only positive of it is the no penalties for moving and shooting. That's 1/3 of the suspensor's original benefits.

So it would be worth it if it was reduced by 2/3 the cost, say 7 Req. Without the change, we are better off getting more explosives or specialty ammo for 25. That's 2 more melta bombs, for example. Or something awesome to give to Iovanus who currently can't really req dick with his low ass renown score.

Heath, thoughts?

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Juros Req

hellfire 2 clips -60
kraken 2 clips -40
magboots -3
lamps 2 -2
demolition charges -10

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DreadnoughtDad wrote:
req 117 spent 107
Stummer - 5
chainsword -5
dipole mag-lock -5
De-tox -3
Resuscitex -15
injector-3
Diagnostor Helmet +10 Medicae Preysense no night time penaties+20 vision @ night -15
Fire Selector -2
kraken rounds -5
hellfire rounds- 25
metal storm -15
pain suppressants -10
astartes harnes 4


Looks like you spent all of your req. Must've added wrong somewhere. What weapon type are you req the ammo for? Depends for magizne size. Also, Kraken rounds are 15, not 5(Living Errata p3).
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Iron and Metal wrote:
insane935 wrote:
insane935 wrote:

Finalized

Dropping Narthecium and Reductor +18
Picking up Deathwatch Suspensor - 25
New Total: 128
11 over now instead of 4

Let me know if this is too much.

I don't think the suspensor is worth the REQ, not without a house rule that lowers it. We use the OW/DH2 combat system, so all standard attacks are 1/2 moves already. The weapon only has a single firing mode, so firing "semi/fully automatic" will never come into play. As Astartes, you'll never need to brace the weapon anyways, so that part does nothing as well. That might mean that NPCs could use it without bracing, but I do not anticipate that situation.

The only positive of it is the no penalties for moving and shooting. That's 1/3 of the suspensor's original benefits.

So it would be worth it if it was reduced by 2/3 the cost, say 7 Req. Without the change, we are better off getting more explosives or specialty ammo for 25. That's 2 more melta bombs, for example. Or something awesome to give to Iovanus who currently can't really req dick with his low ass renown score.

Heath, thoughts?

With the OW/DH2.0 rules, Ive never issued a penalty for moving and firing with a heavy weapon. The rules have invalidated the part.
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Just a bump Heath, but Lucius has reacted in the IC to both Thann and KT Assura.

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Juros Req

hellfire 2 clips -60
kraken 2 clips -40
magboots -3
lamps 2 -2
demolition charges -10

req used -115
unused -2

All power armour, except mark 1, come with mag boots. Please state weapon type that the ammo is for, its for magazine size and nothing being implied. Also you sure you don't want to get any extra grenades and/or repair cement? Chainsword?
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hellfire 2 clips for heavy bolter -60
kraken 2 clips for heavy bolter -40
lamps 2 -2
demolition charges -10

req used -110
unused -5
i'll also take the signum link from the pool if possible -20
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insane935 wrote:

Finalized

Total: 117
Spent: 121
From Squad Pool: 4

Power Armour - free
Standard bolt pistol mags(extra) x10 - ?free?
Hellfire bolt pistol mag x1 - freebie up to 25req per mission
Astartes Backpack Ammo Supply (100 shots) - free
Frags (extra) x4 - free
Kraks (extra) x4 - free
Repair Cement (extra) x4 - free
Astartes Lascannon - 30
Astartes Chainsword + Dipole Mag-lock - 10
Astartes Combat Webbing - 3
Laminator Signal Flare Capsules x1 - 5
Narthecium + Reductor - 18
Signum Link - 20
Astartes Targeter - 25
Leaper/Hopper mine x1 - 5
Stummer - 5

Total: 121

If me using 4 of the squad pool is too much, I'm willing to drop the one mine or the signal flare

Dropping Narthecium and Reductor +18
Additional Leaper/Hopper mine x1 -5
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okul_suntreader12 wrote:
hellfire 2 clips for heavy bolter -60
kraken 2 clips for heavy bolter -40
lamps 2 -2
demolition charges -10

req used -110
unused -5
i'll also take the signum link from the pool if possible -20

Is it worth taking a fire selector on the h bolter so you can easily switch between your different ammo?
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Depending on what the squad pool looks like, I would like to exchange my chainsword for the Shard of Bekrin Relic in the First Founding Book: 20 req.

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Carnelian wrote:
okul_suntreader12 wrote:
hellfire 2 clips for heavy bolter -60
kraken 2 clips for heavy bolter -40
lamps 2 -2
demolition charges -10

req used -110
unused -5
i'll also take the signum link from the pool if possible -20

Is it worth taking a fire selector on the h bolter so you can easily switch between your different ammo?



fire selector is only for pistols and basic weapons
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Just as an update for everyone:
We are currently sitting at 66 req in the squad pool according to the Draco Squad Sheet.

Granted, I don't believe Dread has posted yet.

That means if one more person wanted Terminator armor, for example, they could take it. However, I believe Heath unoficially confirmed that there will be area(s)/checkpoint(s) where we can spend unused requisition during the mission.

If this is the case, holding onto it wouldn't be a bad idea once we get a better idea of what we are up against.

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Starting Cohesion:

Fel. Bonus: 6 +1 (Rank 5) +2 (Command Skill) = 9 Starting Cohesion


Oath:

Oath of Loyalty OR Oath of the Astartes. I think both would fit our new team makeup, but I am unsure what the bonus for Loyalty means when it says it provides a +1 to Cohesion Challenges. It doesn't read as though it is a flat +1 to our overall cohesion score, so I am not sure what that looks like in-game.

As an aside, the +2 flat cohesion bonus from Astartes is pretty dope too.

Personally, I am leaning toward Loyalty since it fits more from an RP perspective.

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Starting Cohesion:

Fel. Bonus: 6 +1 (Rank 5) +2 (Command Skill) = 9 Starting Cohesion


Oath:

Oath of Loyalty OR Oath of the Astartes. I think both would fit our new team makeup, but I am unsure what the bonus for Loyalty means when it says it provides a +1 to Cohesion Challenges. It doesn't read as though it is a flat +1 to our overall cohesion score, so I am not sure what that looks like in-game.

As an aside, the +2 flat cohesion bonus from Astartes is pretty dope too.

Personally, I am leaning toward Loyalty since it fits more from an RP perspective.
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Oath of Loyalty: So basically, whenever something can distrup our squad mode, we wouldn't need to roll since the cohesion would be technically a 10. We would never break.

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Iron and Metal wrote:
Just as an update for everyone:
We are currently sitting at 66 req in the squad pool according to the Draco Squad Sheet.

Granted, I don't believe Dread has posted yet.

That means if one more person wanted Terminator armor, for example, they could take it. However, I believe Heath unoficially confirmed that there will be area(s)/checkpoint(s) where we can spend unused requisition during the mission.

If this is the case, holding onto it wouldn't be a bad idea once we get a better idea of what we are up against.
Dreads req list is further up this page. syphilis probably hasn't gotten to his list yet.
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Thanks on both accounts. I don't know if Heath has ever had us do a Cohesion Challenge and legit forgot it was ever even a fuckin thing haha. Knowing that, I still think Loyalty is a better call from in-game and RP perspective.

Now that it has been addressed, I can see a Cohesion Challenge in our future.

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I'd really like to hear some input from anyone else, since we're all going to be in this shit show together.

Oath of Loyalty for +1 Cohesion Challenges and +10 Cohesion tests OR Oath of the Astartes for a flat +2 Cohesion at the start of the mission.

I plan on using the shit out of squad mode when it counts. Lucius gets bonuses to defensive squad based tactics as well due to his Defensive Genius deed.

So, thoughts?

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I'd really like to hear some input from anyone else, since we're all going to be in this shit show together.

Oath of Loyalty for +1 Cohesion Challenges and +10 Cohesion tests OR Oath of the Astartes for a flat +2 Cohesion at the start of the mission.

I plan on using the shit out of squad mode when it counts. Lucius gets bonuses to defensive squad based tactics as well due to his Defensive Genius deed.

So, thoughts?

I'm completely fine with Oath of Loyalty, meta and roleplay reasons.

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Those oaths look good to me.
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Those oaths look good to me.

Of the two, which do you prefer (this was my main question for the group)?

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Gurkhal wrote:
Those oaths look good to me.

Of the two, which do you prefer (this was my main question for the group)?

Loyalty. If I've understood it correctly it will provide a long-term bonus as opposed to a single extra Cohesion dump at the start for the "Oath of the Astartes".

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Sorry I'm late the party.

First off, I think that Oath of the Astartes is easier to get everyone to AGREE to - the Oath of Loyalty is going to feel a bit like putting a leash on Assura - they might strain against it. But I don't know that we've done a lot of Cohesion Tests, so the +2 Cohesion might actually be better.

Secondly, fuck, 5000 XP and 4 renown. That's SOMETHING. I fucking suck at doing the XP expenditure stuff. Something about the way it adds up and gets spent, but we also track the totals given breaks my brain. Can someone spare some time to help me update? I'm basically fine with just taking whatever updates someone recommends - especially someone that knows the mechanics pretty well.

Thirdly, I know there was some unspent req; would I get another 117? That's also something I'm up to discussing. I'm thinking going with the Heavy Bolter as my primary weapon. The Missile Launcher is nice because it does a good job against Hard Targets and Soft Targets, but we've got a Terminator Marine and people keep shoving melta-bombs where they're not supposed to shine, so I'm thinking something that can take down hordes might be better. Help a brother out?

Fourth, I'm glad we got some more characters that are willing to be DIFFICULT. Lucius is too damn friendly, and he's been rubbing my rough spots off. I'm willing to let someone else take the WAY FUN ROLE of 'resident asshole', but I'm not willing to see it go unfilled. Love the various levels of conflict that people are bringing!

And, I'm spent. Good to be back.
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Sorry I'm late the party.  

First off, I think that Oath of the Astartes is easier to get everyone to AGREE to - the Oath of Loyalty is going to feel a bit like putting a leash on Assura - they might strain against it.  But I don't know that we've done a lot of Cohesion Tests, so the +2 Cohesion might actually be better.  

Secondly, fuck, 5000 XP and 4 renown.  That's SOMETHING.  I fucking suck at doing the XP expenditure stuff.  Something about the way it adds up and gets spent, but we also track the totals given breaks my brain.  Can someone spare some time to help me update?  I'm basically fine with just taking whatever updates someone recommends - especially someone that knows the mechanics pretty well.

Thirdly, I know there was some unspent req; would I get another 117?  That's also something I'm up to discussing.  I'm thinking going with the Heavy Bolter as my primary weapon.  The Missile Launcher is nice because it does a good job against Hard Targets and Soft Targets, but we've got a Terminator Marine and people keep shoving melta-bombs where they're not supposed to shine, so I'm thinking something that can take down hordes might be better.  Help a brother out?

Fourth, I'm glad we got some more characters that are willing to be DIFFICULT.  Lucius is too damn friendly, and he's been rubbing my rough spots off.  I'm willing to let someone else take the WAY FUN ROLE of 'resident asshole', but I'm not willing to see it go unfilled.  Love the various levels of conflict that people are bringing!  

And, I'm spent.  Good to be back.  

1. Okay.


2. I've noticed your last purchase is for rank 5 but you're currently rank 4? I'm not sure how you've made your expenditures but can't say mine are perfect either.

-A. Hip Shooting, Bolter Drill, Sound Constitution (Rank 3), Storm Of Iron, Sound Constitution (Rank 5)... maybe Paranoia?
-B. Max out upgrades for 1 to 3 characteristics.
-C. Under Gen. Advances; Hunter of Aliens, Hatred (Orks and Tyranids), Rank 1 Sound Constitution (x2), Weapon Specialization, Signature Wargear,


3. Yes, you get 117 req to play with. If you plan on going Heavy Bolter, look at okuls req post earlier in this thread and see if you should req anything different or similar. Missile Launcher is a good point, can't hurt, but maybe an Astartes Armoursbane Missile-Launcher will be better? Or maybe try a Firestorm Multi-Melta? Plasma Cannon? Redemption of St. Sulech(Heavy Bolter Relic, RoB p160)?
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Sorry I'm late the party.  

First off, I think that Oath of the Astartes is easier to get everyone to AGREE to - the Oath of Loyalty is going to feel a bit like putting a leash on Assura - they might strain against it.  But I don't know that we've done a lot of Cohesion Tests, so the +2 Cohesion might actually be better.  

Secondly, fuck, 5000 XP and 4 renown.  That's SOMETHING.  I fucking suck at doing the XP expenditure stuff.  Something about the way it adds up and gets spent, but we also track the totals given breaks my brain.  Can someone spare some time to help me update?  I'm basically fine with just taking whatever updates someone recommends - especially someone that knows the mechanics pretty well.

Thirdly, I know there was some unspent req; would I get another 117?  That's also something I'm up to discussing.  I'm thinking going with the Heavy Bolter as my primary weapon.  The Missile Launcher is nice because it does a good job against Hard Targets and Soft Targets, but we've got a Terminator Marine and people keep shoving melta-bombs where they're not supposed to shine, so I'm thinking something that can take down hordes might be better.  Help a brother out?

Fourth, I'm glad we got some more characters that are willing to be DIFFICULT.  Lucius is too damn friendly, and he's been rubbing my rough spots off.  I'm willing to let someone else take the WAY FUN ROLE of 'resident asshole', but I'm not willing to see it go unfilled.  Love the various levels of conflict that people are bringing!  

And, I'm spent.  Good to be back.  

1. Assura is operating on their own as a second team on the Mortis. Our Oath will only be for Draco. So, I think Loyalty is much more of a vibe for us.

2. I will take a look at it later. I wouldn't worry at all about purchasing shit at certain ranks. At this point you know you have enough XP to make rank 5, so when you purchase what is a bit less important because you're going to get ther before the next mission starts anyways.

3. Definitely going to look at gear, but with your req and renown, we might be able to swing a relic weapon or something mighty as fuck just like Aaron is saying. Another player should get the same amount of req, but that's a Heath question. Req is determined on how difficult the mission is, not the number of players per se. With another addition, I am sure Heath will adjust accordingly.

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Heath, what is Cassiel's pre-mission, updated XP?

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