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PostSubject: The unkown chapters: trying to add some traits   The unkown chapters: trying to add some traits EmptySun Sep 16, 2018 5:27 am

Heya folks!

I noticed recently that a ton of space marine chapters had no heraldry; these where minor chapters, often not mentioned more than once. So, as a reason to practice my drawing & visual design, I thought I would try to make heraldry for them. If you have any ideas, or want to contribute, I'll be glad for the help, there are 138 of them! Here they are:

Chapter Founding Successor of Colors
Angels Excellis 36th mill Blood angels Red, white
Angels Glorious - Blood angels -
Angels Numinous - Blood angels -
Angels of light - Blood angels -
Angels of purgatory - - -
Angels of wrath 10th Dark angels -
Angels Puissant - - -
Angels repentant - - -
Angels Vindicant - - -
Astral Fists - - -
Aurora Talons - - -
Benedictor - - -
Black Crusaders - - -
Black Ravens - - -
Blood legion - Blood Angels -
Blood tigers - - -
Blood wings - Blood angels -
Bone knives - - Magenta
Brazen fist - - -
Brothers of jarad - Blood angels -
Brothers of the red - Blood angels -
Borothers penitent - - -
Burning blood - Blood angels -
Celestial swords V1 - - -
Celestial swords V2 - - -
Celestian guard - - -
Cerulean guard - - -
Chorus of eltain - - -
Crimson Scythes - - -
Crimson Swords - - -
Crimson Templars - - -
Dark Paladins - - -
Dark Swords - - -
Dark Templars - - -
Death Hawks - - -
Desert Lions - - -
Dictators - - -
Disciples of blood - Blood angels -
Doom griffons - - -
Doomsayers - - -
Ebon knights - - -
Emperor's Sword - - -
Emperor's wrath - - -
Espandor - - -
Excubant - - -
Execrators - - -
Exsanguinators - Blood angels -
Falling star - - -
Flame falcons - - -
Golden blades - - -
Golden paladins - - -
Golden sons - - -
Grey Slayers - - -
Grief bringers - - Geen, purple
Halo brethren - - -
Hammers of retribution - - -
Hounds of Demos - - -
Immortal Hearts - - -
Imperial Ravagers - - -
Inculcators - - -
Interceptors - - -
Inviolators - - -
Iron hearts - - -
Iron shield - - -
Knights cerulean - - -
Knights of the crimson order - Dark Angel Slate grey, Red, Crimson Robes
Knights of the flame - - -
Knights of thunder Ultima - -
Knights unyelding - - -
Lions sable Second Dark angels -
Lords of wrath - - -
Malevolent - - -
Marines Errantor - - -
Marines Mordant M35 Ultramarines Blue and silver
Marines vindicant - - -
The nameless - - -
Nemesors Ultima   - -
Night hawks - - -
Night sword M32 Imperial Fists White
Nova legion - Ultramarines -
Obsidian Glaives 2nd Ultramarines Bone, Glossy black
Oblators - - -
Pain bringers - - -
Panthers - - -
Persecutors of darkness - Dark angels -
Praetors of ultramar Ultima Ultramarine -
Prophets of mercury - - -
Purgators - - -
Purple stars 2nd - -
Reclaimers - - Off-white, Yellow
Red consuls - Ultramarines -
Red knights - Blood angels -
Red scimitars - - Red,Black
Red seraphs - - -
Red wings - Blood angels white,red
Redeemed - - -
Redeemers - - -
Reparators - - -
Retractors - - -
Rhetors - - -
Sable brotherhood - Blood angels -
Scar lords 2nd - -
Scions of iron - - -
Scions of sanguinis - Blood angels -
Shadow falcons - - -
Shadow haunters - Raven guard -
Shadow hawks - - Red,Charcoal grey
Shadowhawks - - -
Silver drakes ultima - -
Silver stars - - -
Silver sabres - - -
Sons of anteus - Death guard(maybe) -
Sons of gorgax - - -
Sons of orpheus - - -
Sons of the kraken - - -
Sons of the raven - Raven guard -
Star leopards - - -
Star scorpions 25th - Dark green,white
Stone hearts - - -
Stone gauntlets - - -
Storm ravens - - -
Stormwalkers - - -
Supplicators - - -
Tarantulas - - -
Tempestors - - -
Templars of blood - Blood angels -
Terror tigers - - -
Tormentors - - -
Tormented - - -
Tributors - - -
Umbral knights ultima - -
Venerators - - -
Vindicators - Ultramarines -
Viper legion - - -
Warhawks - - -
Watchguards - - -
Wolfspear ultima Space wolves -
Widowmakers - - -


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PostSubject: Re: The unkown chapters: trying to add some traits   The unkown chapters: trying to add some traits EmptySun Sep 16, 2018 5:31 am

Looks like a fun an worthy project. I hope to be able to come in and give some more input later today or tomorrow. Smile
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Decided to try something out for the "Bone Knives". Very weird that their color is magenta...

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PostSubject: Re: The unkown chapters: trying to add some traits   The unkown chapters: trying to add some traits EmptySun Sep 16, 2018 7:45 am

I don't have any artistic skills but here are a few blazons for some Chapters I picked at random. Please note that these might not be in the Astartes fashion so please point out when they are diverging into normal heraldry.

Hopefully I'll be able to try out some of them in a heraldry editor and post them here.

Crimson Templars: Gules, a saltire, Argent, five templar cross in each bend (left to right, right to left) with one in the center of the saltire being the third in each bend.

Dark Paladins: Sable, a gauntlet holding a sword in the middle of the blade horizontally, Or

Dark Swords: Chequy, Argent and Gules, a sword leaning at 45 degrees, Sable

Dark Templars: Sable, a templar cross, Argent (essentially the Black Templars in reverse)

Death Hawks: Gules, a hawk, Guardant, holding a skull in its talons, Argent (a little unsure about this one)

Desert Lions: Or, a leaping lion, Sable

Dictators: Purpure, a gauntlet holding a laurel, Or

Disciples of blood: Gules, a hooded monk, Sable holding a drop of blood, Gules, diogonally,

Doom Griffons: Sable, the skeleton of a griffin rampant, Argent

Doomsayers: Sable, a skull, Argent, with a scroll across its mouth, Or, with the text "Xenos Finalite"

Exterminatos: Sable, six skulls, Argent, in a 3-2-1 pattern

Ebon knights: Per pale, Sable and Or, a laurelled skull, countercharged

Emperor's Sword: Per bend, Or and Gules, a zweihander sword with pommel to the top, Cendrée


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PostSubject: Re: The unkown chapters: trying to add some traits   The unkown chapters: trying to add some traits EmptySun Sep 16, 2018 9:27 am

Made something of the idea for the Dictators:
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The dictators, ancient rulers & guardians of the Pontus sector. They follow the codex astartes very strictly in their organization & tactics. Their only divergence is their rule of the pontus; the chapter master is de Jurethe “Dictator of Pontus”; though in fact, a Governor takes care of most administrative duties. As such, the imperial adepta have less freedom of action in that sector, as the chapter expects all to report to them. They tend to respond violently to anyone who attempts to subvert their authority, which has led to a number of conflicts with the inquisition over the ages, as they tend to act without following the law.
They have close contacts with the navigators, in part due to their prosecution of the q’orl barbarians. It is rumoured that have saved hundreds of navigators from q’orl enslavement.
Skills: Leadership, engineering, administration, lawkeeping;


From Tables:
Chapter foundation reason: standing force (guardians of the Pontus Sector)
Chapter foundation time: 36thnd millennium
Progenitor: Ultramarines
Gene-seed purity: Pure
Demeanor: Honour the codex
Flaw: none
Characteristic Modifiers (+5 Int, +5 Fel)
History:
Figures of Legend: Chapter Master, Ultramarine Hero
Deeds: Bane of orks
World:
Home world: Hive-world (Ravenna) (pontus sector, segmentum pacificus)
Predominant terrain: Urban (Chapter-fortress defends the capital spire)
Rule: Direct rule (entire pontus sector)
Chapter details:
Organization: Codex chapter
Combat Doctrine: Shock and awe
Specialty restrictions: None
Special equipment: Totemic Charm (Necklace of dictator’s gauntlet)
Chapter’s beliefs: The Emperor above all
Strength: Nominal
Allies: Navigators (rolled twice in a row), Administratum, Arbites
Enemies: Quorl, Orks
Heraldry & Livery: (See above)
Advances: Command without doubt
Table: Command without doubt Cost Type Prerequisite
Command 100 Skill
Command +10 100 Skill Command
Command +20 100 Skill Command +10
Charm 100 Skill
Charm +10 100 Skill Charm
Charm +20 100 Skill Charm +10
Talented(command) 400 Talent
Unbowed and unbroken 700 Talent Fel 40
Iron discipline 500 Talent Wp 30, Command
Into the jaws of hell 500 Talent Iron Discipline
Squad mode, solo mode, primarchs curse as ultramarines



Ideas for chapter:

-Dictator is roman word, strong roman motif.
-Ultramarine successors
-Iron halo replaced by Golden Laurels
-Legionnaire-inspired helmet
-Effectively the dictators of the sector thy are tasked with defending (I will call it the Pontus sector)
-Battle-brother: Legionaire
-Company: century
-Chapter: Cohort
-Chapter-Master: Legate
-First-captain: Centurion Primus
-Captain: Centurion
-First company terminator elite: Legionaire-Palatine (or Paladins)


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PostSubject: Re: The unkown chapters: trying to add some traits   The unkown chapters: trying to add some traits EmptySun Sep 16, 2018 9:47 am

Good stuff, kind of how I imagine the heraldry to be.

Also in regards tot he Dictators I would think that perhaps they are traditionally, or at least now, ruled by a "firm hand" sort of Chapter Master. Living up to our modern notions of what a dictator is like.

And if they rule a Sector I would think that they don't at all take kindly to insubordination, defiance or slacking obediance from pretty much anyone.
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Gurkhal wrote:

And if they rule a Sector I would think that they don't at all take kindly to insubordination, defiance or slacking obediance from pretty much anyone.

I thought the exact same thing (a reason why I would give them some friction with the inquisition)

I was thinking of making them more like the roman concept of dictator; a special, authoritarian leader appointed in times of war (which is always in 40k). But yeah, the chapter master would be a firm hand on his people (of all levels). I took out some stuff of the "Rites of battle" chapter creation stuff, will add to initial post.
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Dark templars:

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Or

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I'd go wit the second one.

EDITED: Also, are you not doing the heraldry for the Dark Paladins rather than the Dark Templars?
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Second one as well. It has more positive connotations in that it is upholding the sword of vengeance/justice/retribution/whatever as opposed to apparently dropping it.

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Ok, so I've been working on a few more. Namely, some new options for the bone knives; not sure which is best:

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Reclaimers:

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Shadow Haunters:

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Sons of anteus (Used the triskelion, associated with gaya, as anteus was her son that was invincible as long as he was in contact with the earth).

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Halo brethren:

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Immortal Hearts:

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Iron hearts:

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Shadow Hawks:

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Sons of the Kraken

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Storm Walkers

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Sons of Gorgax

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Storm Ravens

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Warhawks

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The Nameless

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Watchguards

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